"A Legend In Its Own Time" J Dilla (as an exercept of his song "One Eleven"). He without question was 'the most political of the Beatles' and I'm sure a lot of future generations looked upon him for that. Carl Perkins: 10/10 1998 Jelly Roll Morton IMO obviously. Green Day: 9/10 Can't see any update yet. move to 1: Bull. Dire Straits Only one problem: 10 years later, were in the middle of the player empowerment era and The Secret might not matter anymore. Copyright 2006-2023 futurerocklegends.com, Uncovering the Next Generation's Hall of Fame, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum in Cleveland is already, http://whoisbigger.com/entity/Category:Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees, http://whoisbigger.com/#sthash.msMujDin.dpuf, https://www.ranker.com/list/rolling-stone-100-greatest-artists-of-all-time/music-lover, https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/04/ranking-every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-by-tiers.html, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Miracles_awards_and_achievements, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles_discography, https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/01/every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-ranked-from-best-to-bon-jovi.html. -Loudest? The Zombies: 5/10 27 Johnny Cash 12. The Allman Brothers Band: 9/10 Talking Heads The guy was a good singer-songwritermaybe the best of the 70's, but his innovation as a solo artist was pretty much zero. Madonna I've got him in between Walton and Barry who also got a team over the top without any other presumed Pyramid guys, but didn't string together a run like the guys in Level 4 and Level 5. Janet Jackson Too many people attach significance to his preaching without actually focusing on his music, which didn't exactly change the course of music. Jerry West, 9. Patti Smith: 9/10 The Everly Brothers I meant the DIRECT influence on later generations of rockers from people who were rockers themselves. The Doobie Brothers-Level 1 Lionel Richie I love this site and all the work you do. Whitney Houston: 9/10 I've heard stories about Freddie's generosity, John Deacon was always a quiet guy who just got up there and played (doesn't do interviews anymore), while May and Taylor always come across well in interviews. I personally think Radiohead and U2 and perhaps solo Lennon are 3s, and CSN, Clapton, and maybe BB King or The Byrds belong in 4. George Gervin, 39. Journey: Influenced Bon Jovi. "That's What Love Is Made Of" Michael Jackson, Bobby Vee, Choker Campbell, The Magicians. Bill Withers Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble They gave her a Jehova's Witness pitch and when they left they just drove off. A Tribe Called Quest (Level 2 or 3) BB King: 10/10 124. SHOP AROUND, YOU'VE REALLY GOT A HOLD ON ME, OOO BABY BABY, THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS, MORE LOVE, THE TEARS OF A CLOWN, I SECOND THAT EMOTION,BABY BABY DON'T CRY, LOVE MACHINEand MORE !! Before his ACL, he was the best player in the league. "How many artists CURRENTLY at Level 4 can ?" Sam Cooke Putting him ahead of bands like The Byrds, The Doors, Black Sabbath and most of the other bands on the 3rd tier is ridiculous. The Cars: 7/10 Nate Thurmond, 51. And before anyone criticizes my choices by comparison to the current inductees and where they're at on the pyramid, I don't agree with quite a few choices and placements, and would make this pyramid pretty differently. Also, I would put The Stooges in The Clash's place. Stockton at 30 and CP3 at 42. nine inch nails - 2 or 3 "Yester Love" Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra Deal wit' it, yo. Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 00:04am. 1988 He was truly unique in his play style. What he has is an inflated reputation. 1994 Willie Dixon Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 04:11am. 126. 159. "After All" The Supremes, The Marvelettes. 2. The people who made a name IN Rock and Roll. Not a shock, since they also decided it was a good idea to put in Nile Rodgers as a sideman when substantially all his HOF credentials were through Chic (which he himself acknowledged), which ironically has destroyed Chic's chances (since they technically can't factor him in as he was inducted on his work with Chic amongst other groups). He popularized the stretch 4 in some respects as he extended his range out towards the back half of The Heatles experiment. 117. "Here I Go Again" Chazz Dixon, Carey Bell, A.J. Lenny Wilkens, 81. 58. Who isn't? Wait, you'd put Bon Jovi and Journey in the top tier with the Beatles? Heart 7/10 = Solid Picks Bill Simmonss new podcast breaks down the NBAs most important games, players, and teams, extending and reinventing his New York Times no. 33. Uh, yea. Donna Summer: 8/10 Best outside US and UK: If Canada counts, then Rush, if Canada doesn't count, then ABBA. Nobody above him had a shorter period of being in that stratosphere. Grandmaster Flash & Furious Five: 8/10 That's at least 70+ years of music I'm combing through and constantly digging up gems. Naming your daughter after a country and picking a fan's nose are the actions of a classic whackjob. "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. Powered by SMF | 156. Both won MVP. So really Posted by Donnie on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 03:18am. Wow, the whole 2015 class are level 1's? No. 2005 was pretty good too. Cream's rhythm section couldn't stand each other. Bon Jovi Adande. Were Shaq and Kobe always destined to turn on each other? 118. Bruce Springsteen I think all of the others were placed appropriately. Bruce Springsteen: 10/10 And believe it or not, but I actually like them. Albert King: 9/10 I'd probably have The Moody Blues in Level 2 or 3, since they're name checked as the pioneers of art rock and prog rock. If I wrote a serious short book on the updated Pyramid, I'd make use of the same 1:1 comparisons that Simmons did. They at least had a beat and memorable songs. The Cars Ray Charles. -U2 "Much Better Off" J Dilla. To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. Green Day is maybe a 2. 2003 Marvin Gaye: 10/10 9. Dire Straits, Nina Simone #5? Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 04/2/2019 @ 18:34pm. If you consider what the Velvet Underground did to not be metal, then the Velvets. 3,2,1 is pretty much a mess. "I'll Try Something New" Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, Barbara McNair, A Taste of Honey, Spyder Turner (as an excerpt from his cover of "Stand By Me") Distantly tied for third includes Flavor Flav, Lennon ("I'm starting a new religion, and I'm calling it baggism"), Sly Stone. Posted by Joe on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 02:56am, For what it's worth (and my guess), the levels for the new inductees would be: 5/10 = Average/Borderline "More Love" Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb, Foster Sylvers. The Pretenders: 8/10 Heart: 1 Public Enemy: 10/10 With the Shaq/Kobe era crumbling against a hungry 2004 Pistons team, Shaquille ONeal tried to save the day with a memorable throwback performance. Yes Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps: 7/10 89. 208. "Who's Loving You" The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa. 1989 The Soul Stirrers 1990 Ma Rainey Overall personality-wise, I'll say Prince. Aretha Franklin It's Bill's idea and his rankings, I'm simply putting a fresh coat of paint on the building. Elvis Presley. would be thrown in here. Level 4: 1990 Charlie Christian For an Early Influence, I would pick Cab Calloway or The Ravens. 39. 112. Russell, 2. Sister Rosetta Tharpe- 5 Van Morrison: 10/10 Biggest botch Here are the questions: NIN: 9/10 Level Four: Brendan Fraser (we can't really have him above anyone else here) David Thompson, 80. Loudest other than metal: The Kinks 20. Posted by Follower on Saturday, 01/19/2019 @ 16:38pm. "Bad Girl" Dazz Band. I forgot to factor influence. Underrated, or too low: John Mellencamp, Mamas+Papas, Temptations, Frank Zappa, The Rascals, The Hollies, Posted by Bill on Tuesday, 08/19/2014 @ 19:29pm. Janet Jackson Still hasnt talked about a ton of the top guys. Pearl Jam 2020: You missed question #5 2002 I fully expect him to skyrocket up these rankings as soon as this summer. Electric Light Orchestra- 3 61. These questions and more are broken down in our second Pyramid Podcast, with Northwestern Universitys director of sports journalism, J.A. move to 3: He's one of the best scorers ever. [1] They also have the distinction of having more songs inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame than any other Motown group." Pink Floyd Radiohead were around then. Most unworthy: Percy Sledge, the one hit wonder whose one hit wasn't all that wonderful. The Ramones are a case in point. N.W.A -Philip 148. Topic: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid (Read 15782 times) armand_a. 2) THE TEMPTATIONS at # 67 Public Enemy (lower 2nd) They were the FIRST Motown group. Both bands have always struck me as being out of place as 1st-year inductees, and it could be a case of their influence or perceived importance decreasing over time, even their induction. 2012 Freddie King 62. 188. Duran Duran Posted by Nick on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 15:29pm. 202. Well, if you honestly believe that the king of weepy singer-songwriters James Taylor (who has no business in any HOF other than the consignment store record bin HOF) did more to develop rock 'n roll (not rock music, that's a needless abbreviation) than The Ventures (with the exception of Booker T and the MG's, the most significant instrumental rock 'n roll band of the 1960s), then I have nothing to say (as Oliver Hardy would have said). Chicago - 2 (they are more than just a garden variety level 1 band, too many hits, if Billy Joel and Rod Stewart are level 2, then Chicago fits) If youre curious about Simmons precise words, you can listen to the podcast episode for the ones that have exact dates. This high? Nine Inch Nails (Level 2) Should have been first ballot: Black Sabbath! Percy Sledge Queen Martha & The Vandellas: 8/10 Tupac Shakur -Probably the first class, 1986 Loudest other than metal: The Who "Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair. They were that good, and everybody knew it. 136. Bowie is so upstream of many, many acts. Anybody remember songs like "Keep On Pushing", "Choice Of Colors", and "People Get Ready" ? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. 2002 P.S. Tracy McGrady, 89. Journey Dylan, Buddy Holly, Led Zep, Hendrix His influence and impact cannot be overstated, and I have the sources to back up my claims. The Hall of Fame honors graduates of the Army Reserve Officers' Training Corps who have . Eminem (Level 4) I love Elton John, but he does not deserve to be ranked higher than Buddy Holly & the Crickets, Black Sabbath, Bo Diddley, Fats Domino, Little Richard, The Byrds, The Doors, and others who are more innovative and influential. "Determination" The Contours.
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